To Charge or Not to Charge: Should Credit Card Spending be Restricted for Young Adults?
October 8, 2009 by Francesca Antonacci · 7 Comments

As soon as I was 18, I couldn’t wait to do two things: buy a lottery ticket and get my own credit card. I lost my first $10 and gave up on the former, but I didn’t even have to try to get the latter. I got a phone call merely a few weeks after my birthday with a survey from a credit card company — they wanted to issue me my own card. Ten minutes on the phone and one week later, I had that little piece of plastic magic in my hand — and a whole new mess of troubles.
With six months of 0% APR and an increasing spending limit, I went on a charging rampage for four months and then struggled my last two to pay it off. After that, I just signed up for another one. And the vicious cycle continued until I ended up with five different credit cards and a balance on each. Now, four credit cards lighter and (almost) debt-free, I’m just glad I didn’t ruin my credit score because I paid my bills on time. I’m certainly never digging myself into that hole again. But, could my spending problems have been prevented? The government thinks so.
In February, a federal law will be passed requiring all those under 21 to have either a parent co-sign or require teens to prove they can prepay their debt.
Like most good things in life, credit cards can do us good or bad. So will the limitation help or hinder? According to Ken Lin of Credit Karma, this limitation could just keep young adults from building credit. Credit Karma helps you calculate and track your credit score in order to gain access to exclusive offers from companies that “value your creditworthiness.” In order to calculate credit score, payment history and the length of access are considered. By pushing the age required to get an unlimited card to 21, the process is just getting delayed “limiting the data available to build a good or excellent credit score” and even keeping some from getting auto or mortgage loans, according to Lin.
Avi Karnani, the founder of Thrive, a company directed to helping adults in their 20s and 30s learn to control and manage their finances, finds credit cards a pathway to disaster. According to Karnani, young adults who are not educated in financial responsibility can easily destroy their credit and lead themselves to years of debt payment. But with the average college student graduating with $3,100 in credit card debt according to Credit Karma, “there’s no point in building credit and then trashing it,” Karnani said.
So instead of handing an 18-year-old a card that allows him to spend money he might not have and lead him into whirlpool of debt, why not teach him how to use credit responsibly. Karnani compares it to getting a driver’s license. There are learner’s permits that allow driving with limitations. Then, there’s driver’s education and tests that one must pass before he’s given full license over the vehicle. That’s “exactly what we’re doing here with credit,” Karnani said.
Is involving a parent’s signature and putting his/her credit on the line a good idea? It can work both ways. It can seem like just another restriction on the freedoms of young people. First, no drinking. Now, no credit cards. It can also work against the co-signing parent. “When co-signing for a child, the parent becomes liable,” Lin said. So, if a child misses or defaults on a payment, it reflects negatively on the parent’s credit score.
On the other hand, the co-signing parent could use it as an opportunity to get involved with their child’s spending and teach them how to use credit responsibly. “Parents need to sit down with their child and discuss the importance of good credit and the ramification of ruining [it] while you are young,” Lin said.
The other option is a prepaid credit card. This is a good choice for those who have a tendency to splurge or trouble remembering to pay bills on time. However, activity of prepaid cards isn’t reported to the credit bureaus so no credit history is built, Lin said.
But no credit has to be better than bad credit. “We’re looking at 20 years of tragedy brought on by credit, and we’re making some rules,” Karnani said. “People will be better off for it.”
Although Lin disagrees with the idea of delaying the building of credit history for 3 more years, he agrees that “having a safety net in the form of a parent for the first few years is a good idea.” As are spending limits. A “good” limit, according to Lin, is one that can be paid back within 3-6 months based on income, not exceeding 30% of annual income.
Lin also suggests that a credit class for students who do not have co-signers is something for future credit card legislation to consider.
As it seems, credit card overspending for young adults will hopefully come to an end. And it will leave college students considering: to charge, or not to charge? That is the question.
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What’s Your Grade? Credit Karma’s Credit Report Card
June 15, 2009 by Christine Rochelle · 3 Comments

Credit Karma has launched a new, web-based tool that turns your credit score into an easy to read report card that grades your credit health. Best of all? It’s free. Credit Karma CEO, Ken Lin, was excited to talk about the new reporting tool that provides insight for consumers who don’t understand their credit score, but actively want to improve it. Read more
Monthly Mashup: February Edition
March 2, 2009 by Lauren Fairbanks · Leave a Comment

It’s been seven months since we gave birth to the shiny new creation that is LifeStyler. As we trek further down the road looking back on the happenings of the past month — whether it was delving into Obama’s new stimulus plan, tips on surviving in NYC’s harsh employment landscape, or fun, free weekend ideas — our mission stays the same: to keep bringing smart, pertinent and helpful information about lifestyle and personal finance to the young and ambitious in NY. And in true LifeStyler tradition, here are some of our Editor’s story picks from February’s harvest.
Credit Karma’s Ken Lin on FICO’s New Scoring Model – In an attempt to find out more about FICO’s new scoring model, we called up Ken Lin — CEO of Credit Karma — to find out what changes to expect in the upcoming months.
Recession-Proof Activities: Bigger, Badder, Harder – You asked for more, and we brought it. Check out LifeStyler’s third edition of Recession-Proof Activities for fun, free weekend activities in the NYC area.
2009 Economic Stimulus: What it Means for you - David at Money Under 30 delves into Obama’s 2009 stimulus plan, and breaks it down into layman’s terms. Find out how the Stimulus bill will affect you.
The Dream Delayed: Recent Grads and the Struggle for Employment – Our newest contributor, Christine Rochelle, jumps into the trenches to get the down and dirty on the current unemployment crisis. Check out Lauren and David’s stories of how they’re keeping positive in a dismal job market.
The Banking Crisis Hasn’t Deterred Condescending Attitudes -With many banks on a slippery slope, you’d think customer service would be a high priority for their business. As I witnessed a few weeks back, that may not be the case — condescending banker attitudes are still alive and well.
How to Deal with a Job Loss – Pinyo at Moolanomy gives nine tips on how to deal with the loss of a job as someone who is on the brink of losing his. He details how to not burn bridges with your current employer, and how to beef up your skills and polish up your interviewing skills for the job hunt ahead.
5 Tips for Surviving on Peanuts – With economic conditions still in a deteriorating state, it’s more important than ever to save every penny in case of a job loss or unexpected emergency. We give you five tips on how to cut your expenses and live on less.
Credit Karma’s Ken Lin on FICO’s New Scoring Model
February 25, 2009 by Lauren Fairbanks · 4 Comments

In the age of the credit crunch, credit scores are the passport to your financial future. The new year has brought many things, and with it, a new scoring model. We spoke to Ken Lin, CEO of Credit Karma (a website that lets you check your credit score for free — anytime, anywhere) about the change in the FICO credit scoring model to get a better idea of what the changes are and how they will affect you.
Can you give us an overview of the new scoring formula?
It hasn’t been fully disclosed or anything. They’ve selectively agreed to point out certain things. But the way it looks like things are going to work, it’s going to be a more holistic view on a person’s credit. So what that means, is that it takes fewer of the micro late payments and looks at your credit on a more holistic level – late payments or single late payments don’t matter as much on your credit score, but long term late payments will have a bigger impact. I think that’s one of the first changes.
I think a secondary change is really around the authorized users and the notion of piggybacking your credit. I think that’s been one of those things where people have gamed the system — where if you add an authorized user in your credit report, you are in fact transferring some of your good credit over to that person — and basically stop that process or that loophole, if you will. And really the third component or maybe the global picture, they’re really trying to help lenders better determine who are lower risk people. I think that’s the ultimate objective. But at the high level, it’s all about making more of a holistic view on the credit score, rather than the minutia, as well as fixing a few of the loopholes in the hopes of getting a better [read] for lenders.
So, when does this new scoring method go into effect?
Well, it’s interesting. So what happens most of the times with these scores, lenders will actually test it. So it launched I think actually today or yesterday, with TransUnion. I think Equifax is coming down the road, and Experian hasn’t actually released the date. But normally what happens with new credit scores is that financial institutions have billions of dollars in their portfolio based on existing credit scores, so they’re generally hesitant to switch over completely or unilaterally to new credit scoring systems without testing it. What I suspect, is that banks will slowly migrate as they test it. And what they’ll ultimately do is test this score against the old score and see if there are actually pickups in the performance of being able to detect chargeoffs or risk. I think once those numbers come in, they’ll be more likely to make a final switch.
What spurred this change, or does FICO regularly and routinely change their methodology?
You know, credit scores haven’t stayed the same, really ever. I think historically there have always been updates. There have always been tweaks to get them to normalize for different years or economic conditions. But even if you look at the current FICO score, its been updated five or six times since its original release in the late 90’s. So this is a constant, but I think this one is a little bit more radical from the standpoint that they’re trying to address more of the macro level issues instead of the loopholes that we spoke about. But you have to keep in mind that credit scores are constantly evolving, and its never the case where you have one consistent score from the beginning of time for you.
OK. I was wondering if it had anything to do with banks lending money to unattractive borrowers and the whole sub prime debacle that we just went through?
You know, I think that probably is a little bit of the underlying effect. I mean, credit scores, they’ve performed well. I think the whole sub prime debacle is more of the factor that the banks got a little more greedy. They were continually lowering their criteria or their threshold in the hopes of making more profits, and it just ultimately backfired. I think part of this is grounded in the fact that you always want to be able to better mitigate your loss or predict losses based on your credit score. I don’t think credit scores ultimately brought down the industry. It was more of a case that the industry was a little too greedy and willing to lower their standards.
Do you think this new method will prove to be more beneficial to people, or do you think that a lot of people will see their scores being lowered?
Its too early to tell, but this score is meant to benefit banks and lenders — quite honestly, right? Credit scores are always built for lenders. Consumers are finally becoming aware of it because they know how much impact it has on their financial well being. But historically these things are built for lenders. And the ultimate gauge of whether this score is successful, is if it will be able to differentiate good borrowers from bad borrowers. And that will be the decision. So from a consumer’s standpoint, it’s important for them to always be aware of what their credit scores are, and making sure their credit reports are accurate. But I think this particular change will have little impact on the consumer — more of the impact is really going to be focused on the lender and their profitability.
Like you said earlier, it’s going to be focused more on the minutia. I heard that the smaller problems, like if you have a doctor’s bill for $100 that accidentally went into collections, it would mean less. Is that true?
Correct. Right. It de-emphasizes the smaller aspects and looks more at the macro level trends. So if you have a long history of always being late or being delinquent on your bills, that’s taken into more of significance, rather than if you have a small doctor’s bill, a collections notice, for a $100 or less — it has less of an impact. And along the same lines, if you recently missed a payment, but you’ve always paid your bills on time, that will also have a much lower impact on your credit score.
I was also reading that they’re going to be focusing more on the credit to debt ratio. Does it hurt your score to have a credit card open, but to never use it, if it’s paid off?
So, they’re starting to look a little bit more closely on inactive accounts. I think the general rule of thumb is if you have a line of credit that’s available to you that you don’t use often, use it every couple of months to show that there is activity so that it continues to contribute to your active credit line. I think the new model suggests that they are going to be de-emphasizing credit limits if you don’t use them. So a simple way around that is to buy a tank of gas every other month with your card so that you continue to show usage. That will kind of mitigate any of the negative impact of having credit lines that sit dormant.
Will the new scoring model change the way they differentiate between labeling scores good, fair, poor and excellent.
I don’t think so. Historically, credit scores have been normalized. Meaning that at any given year, they expect the same score to have the same amount of chargeoff. So I think because everyone is so used to that standard, they’re not going to be changing the definition of good, bad, and poor.
What about precautions? Are there any new ones that we should follow or should we stick with the same rules that we’ve been doing, like keeping a healthy credit to debt ratio and keeping accounts that are paid off open?
Yeah. There are so many components that go into a credit score — I think at the last count it was over 200. And for a consumer to actively monitor 200 or try to you know, eek that last 2 or 3 points of improvement really becomes difficult. So following the general rule of thumb of not carrying too much debt, making sure your credit reports are accurate, not having too high of a utilization — those general types of tips will be always true. I think consumers should be more worried about those macro trends, instead of doing X,Y, and Z to get the last three points of improvement.
And is there any advice to someone who’s planning to purchase a house or car this spring, and will need to have a good score?
Yeah. Well, I think credit scores are more important than they’ve ever been in the last ten years, if you will. If you’re looking to make a major purchase, I think consumers need to start being aware of their credit scores today. And anything lower than a 720 for example, on a mortgage is going to be really difficult to get good financing or at least financing at the best rate. So consumers need to be diligent about monitoring their credit scores probably 6 months to a year ahead of that purchase. Ideally they’re constantly monitoring their credit score. They need to be very cognizant of cleaning up their [credit] lines, making sure they’re paying down their debt, and getting to the threshold of 720 plus, so they can get the best rates.
Will consumers be able to get a free copy of their credit score once the majority of the banks transition over to the new scoring model?
Well, this is a really interesting point. I mean, historically you can only get your FICO score from myFICO. Experian recently cut off their relationship with them. So you can only get two of your FICO scores through myFICO. But even FICO released the fact that they’re actually not planning to release this new FICO score to consumers for another two to three years, so these recent changes kind of, again, support the fact that from a consumer’s perspective, they can’t get too caught up in what they need because they still won’t technically have access to it for a few more years.
Is there anything else you’d like to throw out to our readers?
You know, I think the continuing message that we continue to support is that credit scores are very important for almost every aspect of financial health. This is a minor change that consumers should be aware of, but they should definitely be aware of those macro level changes in terms of the economy and having good credit. That’s just one thing that we continue to tell consumers — be diligent about knowing your credit score and really how they work.
Monthly Mashup: October Edition
October 31, 2008 by Lauren Fairbanks · Leave a Comment
It’s that time of year when the weather turns crisp and the proud citizens of New York bundle up in their winter gear. But before we head off into the mother of all holiday seasons, let’s take a look retrospective look back at some stories from the past month. Here are some of our favorite posts from around the net, as well as our more popular stories from October in this month’s Mashup.
One on One with Credit Karma’s Ken Lin – We spoke to the CEO and founder of Credit Karma, a new internet start-up that allows you to check your credit score whenever you want. We got the 411 on how the site works and where they plan to go from here.
The Under $60 Work Outfit - The Budget Fashionista showcased a great example of budget shopping with her $60 Work Outfit. Find out how you can look fabulous for pennies on the dollar.
5 Well-Paying Careers You’ve (Probably) Never Considered – Now can be a rough time for students looking into future career paths. With layoffs aplenty right now, the usual career paths may not be such an enticing route. Check out these five career paths that are blossoming despite the recession.
8 Fun Recession-Proof Activities – You don’t have to stop your social life because of rising prices and stagnate salaries. There are still ways to entertain yourself at home and around NYC – even when you’re on a shoestring budget. Check out our 8 recession-proof activities for some low-cost NY fun.
Six Benefits of Bill Consolidation – Consolidation doesn’t have to mean defeat. There are many benefits of consolidating bills and we’ll take a look at six of them. Take a look at them and get your finances under control and back on track.
Gotta Travel? Take the Bus! – With air travel sky rocketing (excuse the bad pun), it’s no wonder people are looking for alternate travel means. Check out these four bus companies that are helping NY’ers ease the pain and costs of traveling.
Consumers Feel the Next Crisis: It’s Credit Cards – The New York Times takes a look at the credit card industry, and how the current economic situation is affecting the way they pick and choose lendees.
5 Simple Meals Made with Ramen – You may not be able to afford a fancy dinner, but that doesn’t mean that you have to spend five nights a week rotating between beef and chicken flavored ramen. Take a look at our five fun and easy meal ideas to spice up that ramen.
Switching to Cheap Beauty Products – Drugstore spending can easily spiral out of control — especially for women purchasing makeup and beauty products. Read up on how to trade in those expensive products for budget alternatives.
Work Out for Cheap: Alumni Gym Memberships – Gym memberships are super expensive these days, but staying fit and healthy is still a prime and valid concern for most people. Think you can’t have both? It may be more possible than you think. Check out our list of NYC alumni gym memberships.
One on One With Credit Karma’s Kenneth Lin
October 28, 2008 by Lauren Fairbanks · 2 Comments
I was introduced to Credit Karma a few weeks ago at a Quicken media event courtesy of a chance meting with a company representative who gave me the scoop on the site. The prospect of obtaining free credit scores was more than a little bit awesome, so I thought it wise to probe deeper to get an understanding of just how Credit Karma pulled it off. This led to an opportunity to chat it up with Credit Karma’s CEO and Founder, Kenneth Lin to find out a little more about the company, its goals, and how it’s able to produce no-strings-attached free credit scores any day of the week. Keep on reading for some behind the scenes info (and a few credit building tips!) on one of the most helpful and beneficial websites to hit the interwebs.
1. When did Credit Karma officially launch?
Credit Karma launched its beta service in February 2008.
2. Aside from your service being free, what are the benefits of using Credit Karma instead of just getting a free credit report each year?
We have three core value positions for consumers.
First, we provide consumers free access to their credit score anytime and as often as necessary without any hidden fees or obligations. Second, we provide educational tools and content to help consumers better understand how credit and credit scores work. Third, we provide access to offers and incentives based on credit score ranges. Today many of the offers come from financial services companies. We are currently expanding into other industries including cable, wireless and insurance, just to name a few.
3. Do you have a background in the credit scoring industry? And is Credit Karma your first entrepreneurial venture?
I do. I started my career working for a Credit Card company building scoring models and evaluating default risk about 10 years ago. Since then I have managed online marketing programs for pro-consumer companies like E-LOAN and Upromise.
Credit Karma is actually my second entrepreneurial venture. I founded an online marketing company in 2006 which helped shape the business model for Credit Karma.
4. What inspired you to start Credit Karma?
Having worked with great consumer brands like E-LOAN and Upromise and financial pioneers like Chris Larsen, I saw an opportunity to build a service that could help consumers better understand and access credit.
Prior to Credit Karma, there were only a handful of ways to access your credit score and most of them had hidden fees or obligations. Considering that a credit score is probably the most important metric of a consumer’s financial health, I think free access should be a fundamental consumer right. So I set out on finding a way to provide this service for free.
5. What is your mission for the Company, and are you more focused on just making credit scores available or is there a focus on helping people improve their credit scores and offering them ways to increase it?
We are focused on demystifying credit and making credit scores available to all consumers for free. In today’s economic environment, credit is more important than ever. Our service is built to educate consumers on the importance of good credit, maintain and manage credit health and then reward good credit through offers.
6. A lot of the sponsors on the site are for credit cards. Do you think it’s a conflict of interest since a majority of Americans are already in good deal of credit card debt? Credit cards present a great convenience when used properly. In many cases, they are also the backbone of a consumer’s credit report and history. We stress education and proper management of debt. For example, our site provides consumer unbiased user feedback on credit cards along with editorial recommendations based on usage type, credit score and member experience.
Everything on the site is geared to help consumers become more informed about finances whether it is loans, credit cards, savings rates, or even cable services.
7. Where do you pull your credit scores from? Is there a specific reason why you chose that credit bureau?
We are currently using TransUnion as our credit bureau. We chose them because they share our vision of helping consumers.
8. I think a lot of people are worried that pulling their credit score each day will lower it. Does using Credit Karma affect a person’s score in any way?
Checking your credit score on Credit Karma does not impact your score. This is a common misconception. The truth is that pulls initiated by the consumer for the consumer’s own use will not lower the score.
There is a strong need for education in the market on this and other issues related to credit especially right now. We hope Credit Karma can help educate consumers on managing their credit score over time and provide tips, tools and simulators to support better decision-making and improve individual credit health.
9. Do you plan on expanding the Company and in what ways?
Our expansion is centered on two key areas. Better tools and content and better offers and incentives. Better tools is all about making credit easy to understand and transparent. Our recent launch of the credit simulator is a prime example of this vision. The Credit Karma simulator predicts the affects of various everyday financial actions against your credit score. The simulator is custom for each individual’s credit report. For example, applying for a credit card may lower one consumer’s score by 25 points on one, and only 2 points for another.
The second component is finding more partners to provide incentives to our members. Getting rewarded for good credit is the concept of “karma”. This aspect of Credit Karma’s offering will continue to grow over time.
10. Do you think that you guys will ever expand to include credit reports along with the scores and would that even be possible to offer for free since it seems like that would be taking income away from the credit bureaus?
Today, by law consumers can already get their credit report for free on annualcreditreport.com. We didn’t see much value in spending resources building something consumers already get for free. The score was the missing component. It is probably the most confusing aspect of credit so we decided to tackle this first.
We have a number of features and offerings in the pipeline based on user feedback and requests. We do not pose a threat to the bureaus as we pay for all data on the consumer’s behalf.
11. I noticed that you have a credit simulator that’s a bit more in depth than most credit score simulators that I’ve used before. Is there a way to offer tips for improving your credit score that are based on each person’s credit history?
I think our credit simulator is quite unique. It is customized by every user’s unique credit report. This is just the first step in our vision. We will continue to explore tools that provide user recommendations, educate the consumer and provide guidance for better decision-making.
12. Our website caters to a young, 20-something crowd that doesn’t have a long credit history. What are some tips for our readers to build their credit score without having 10 years of credit history and struggling to pay their student loans and credit cards on time each month?
We really stress financial responsibility. There is no easy way to build good credit. That means it takes years to build good credit and a few missed payments to destroy it. The best practices are:
1. Know your credit. You can’t improve it if you don’t it or if you don’t know how it works.
2. Pay your bills on time. Using credit is good and helps build your credit history but you have to pay on time to get this benefit.
3. Set a budget. If you are struggling to pay bills, you need to prioritize and have the fortitude to stick by it.
4. Find the right products. Whether it is a credit card, s student loan, or an auto loan, different products can cost you thousands over the life of the loan in interest and fees. Generally the better the credit, the lower the interest so use the knowledge to improve your score and then improve your rates.
5. Continue to learn. Financial health is complex. Use the content on creditkarma.com and other pro-consumer sites to be aware of trends in credit and financial products. Education can save consumer hundreds of thousands of dollars in interest and fees over a consumer’s lifetime.
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Ditch the Bureaus: Check your Credit Score with Credit Karma
October 16, 2008 by Lauren Fairbanks · 2 Comments
Obtaining credit scores has always been an enormous hassle. You go to Annual Credit Report and request it, then you get it and it shows you the report – but not the score. That’ll be an extra $8. Read more








